Professor Mark Schumacher, MD, PhD, Chief of the Division of Pain Medicine in the Department of Anesthesia and Perioperative Care, was interviewed in September for episode 13 of “The Spark – Medical Education for Curious Minds.” Dr. Schumacher discusses the development of chronic pain curriculum at UCSF, specifically for the School of Medicine Bridges Curriculum. The Spark is a monthly podcast from the UCSF School of Medicine, that presents the people and stories behind medical education at UCSF and our community of learners. Through The Spark, we feature perspectives and insights from faculty, staff and students in the School of Medicine’s medical education community, delivered over each episode monthly.